flyonthewall37 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@mrplease66 "I knew this was gonna come!". Uh..OK Nostradamus...Yeah whatever! They were real ordinances and missiles which exploded on impact and. The conquest of Eurasia and Easter Europe by Mongols happen BEFORE Mongols conquered China! How could they get Chinese weapons before they conquer China? Read some real history.

flyonthewall37 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@mrplease66 "the Greeks knew 'steam engines' in 200BC, but did they build trains?". This is a bit of a stretch. Who had ever made a claim that Greeks invented trains because they invented steam engines? WHO? And steam engines weren't only used in trains...

zakard114 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

so, going back to the printing press: how much of an impact did that have in Germany? Very much. (in Korea, absolutely. actually not only in Korea, it did impact whole world. Just because you didn't research for it, you don't know about this truth)

zakard114 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

did they do anything useful with them? - Yes but, because they do anyghing useful with them only, It doesn't mean the device has satisfied to the entire world. so you need to change Them -> World. then your original question will automatically be satisfied the condition become "No" to "Yes." without that, it doesn't even satisfied the condition of listing on the UNESCO. (in Korea, of course) Also, Yes for steam engine. the reason has explained at the beginning.

zakard114 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I'll show you how your logic has faced on the paradox - Before we start, Don't try to suicide as arguing which one is the first whether Egg or Chicken. because it will make your look more stupid. without steam engine, so there's no steam engine powered Train too.The Germany knew 'Metal printing press craft' since around 1440~1450, but did they build the holy bible? No! (same to Korea. they didn't build the buddhist bible & texts)

zakard114 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@zakard114 Correction - if a stuff putted on this list, that means the stuff is officially authorized by the world rule as influential legacy. -> if a stuff putted on this list, that means the stuff is officially authorized by the world rule as one of the most Influential & Impact legacies in the World.

zakard114 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@zakard114 Correction Eastern perspective to current of Western's. ->Current Western's perspective to Eastern's.

zakard114 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@mrplease66 Once the latest metal print pressing device 'JeungDoga' (the news I informed via one of my previous comments) - the post Jikji authorized by UNESCO near the future, World history of printing legacy will be re-arranged as Eastern perspective to current of Western's. How about steam engine? I guess it also on the list of UNESCO, it is much trustful institute rather then yours' "English best pedia." I can prove it through more sources by the way.

zakard114 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@mrplease66 I think you have a problem with understanding of world influential legacy. You need to research the definition of UNESCO. if a stuff putted on this list, that means the stuff is officially authorized by the world rule as influential legacy. Change the england best perspective/notion or if you could, do reforming your cultural narcism too.

zakard114 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

There's rumor has which the origin of gutenberg gets influenced by those of printing crafts from the east. believe it or not, you can do research for it at least, just open the possibility. btw, I think Chinese Gunpowder still influence entire world, anyway we can't use the gun without it. whether the purpose of defence or for entertainment, it has devoted the world contribution. They use it for the purpose of military even at the same time with western.